http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#a4200f23-86f3-4e66-9962-ab7f8fe3fa4d Hey Tonia, Im a six and just been prescribed citalopram, have to say its been a godsend. Apparently women can handle the effects of it better than men. I think as a type six we are more predisposed to depression, how are you getting on with the new meds x Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:24:30 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#a4200f23-86f3-4e66-9962-ab7f8fe3fa4d Sarah 2009-10-19T00:24:30Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#82a0e4ce-1b68-4027-91be-b4df629807c9 I'm finally settling into the recognition that i live from a 6 perspective. I am finding it very hard to warmly accept and settle into though, and secretly i'm still hoping, that an enneagram expert (read authority) will come along and tell me that i've misstyped myself :D In the meantime i'm reading some Almaas (Facets of Unity) to get some good bits/perspective on enneastyle/facet 6, so i get too feel a bit optimistic about the situtation Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:53:02 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#82a0e4ce-1b68-4027-91be-b4df629807c9 conrad 2009-07-23T06:53:02Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#73c98cae-2f3a-404d-b5ab-2528b18737d9 Hi there, i'd like more info on this. i'm a 6w7 SX,SO,SP and am interested in how norepinephrine effects the 6's. i just changed my meds (for depression) from effexor which has norepinephrine to citalopram. I was really edgy and irritable and angry on the effexor - somethign i'm hoping will subside now. can you share what you know about this subject? Are you a 6 too? thanks in advance Tonia :-) Thu, 07 May 2009 02:57:18 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#73c98cae-2f3a-404d-b5ab-2528b18737d9 Tonia 2009-05-07T02:57:18Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#2be267ac-6f0c-43a5-9781-52f581b88a60 Hi - am joining the game really late and hope you're still out there :-) I'm a six who's not much of a techophile and can't seem to locate a Tribe for 6s...is it just me who can't manoveur her way around or did we doubtful bunch never actually get around to creating one? If you can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated! Sun, 03 May 2009 16:00:30 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#2be267ac-6f0c-43a5-9781-52f581b88a60 Ann 2009-05-03T16:00:30Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#484c5fbc-1917-46b9-a2c4-6f25ce294941 Hm, *phobic and self-preserving* Four is veryverymuchly close b-b-utt.. Anxiety pumps mi 'art! I'm pretty much a n00b to the Enneagram and before I took the test I was near oblivious to the thought of myself being this blob of contradictions even the mighty paradoxes couldn't save. sheesh, do I feel silly! D: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:13:24 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#484c5fbc-1917-46b9-a2c4-6f25ce294941 snu 2007-12-01T11:13:24Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#c19a16cc-aa1d-4473-a760-0c469b40e56e I'm a type six INFJ. That doesn't *sound* too right but it's pretty darn spot on for me. :S awh. I want to hug the concept of six. Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:41:41 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#c19a16cc-aa1d-4473-a760-0c469b40e56e snu 2007-12-01T10:41:41Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#843ff153-db5e-4f39-bec7-fa0c2958249c Hey hey a six here :) I have found the best compatibility with type 2's with a 1 wing for myself. I also was one of the sixes who mis-typed themselves (first as a seven, then a four) What helped me to successfully type was to think back to my childhood and teenage years. Nobody wants to type as six; who wants to admit a need for authority, who wants to admit a center ridden with anxiety for anxiety's sake? :) Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:26:39 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#843ff153-db5e-4f39-bec7-fa0c2958249c iggs 2007-09-27T02:26:39Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#66204097-fa41-4e90-a4f4-b96c30d6462a I can never keep the types in hand... I think I am a Social 6 (if I last remember) and I swing, freely, between being counterphobic and phobic... which is how it was orginally presented, not that it stayed here or there, but that it moves. Indeed, EVERY type moves and leans, uses both wings at some point for different reasons... instead of trying to open up the possibilities, when it comes to the enneagram, people try to create boxes of self-contained and identified senses of self when the truth about the self is that it is always in constant flux -- or should be... because enlightment through the enneagram comes with incorporating all instead of just one... understanding your movements and getting past them in order to see the whole. I always feel that people make it so... lame... after a while... Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:20:37 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#66204097-fa41-4e90-a4f4-b96c30d6462a Songbird 2006-06-25T08:20:37Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#b2f0784f-ecdf-4d73-9a44-52cec9cc81a2 *shakes head* It's Sufi. Also, wanting to know where something comes from is not horrible or wrong or corpse evoking at all -- THAT is being a 6, Sir. I don't accept ANYTHING without research and checking things out myself... which is why I think Gurdjeiff is... well, not important (that's right -- I said it!) and if I learned about it via that avenue, I would have dismissed it, too. It is the spiritual implications that interest me about both enneagram and astrology -- of which I am student. Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:15:00 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#b2f0784f-ecdf-4d73-9a44-52cec9cc81a2 Songbird 2006-06-25T08:15:00Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#debff00c-409b-4aaa-973d-fbd5604bb903 Depends... I know a LOT about astrology.... Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:10:26 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#debff00c-409b-4aaa-973d-fbd5604bb903 Songbird 2006-06-25T08:10:26Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#cb3e98b3-375b-4516-a76d-4ea2a36b547b Um, I would like more info.... are 6's naturally more prone to depression or mania???? Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:09:14 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#cb3e98b3-375b-4516-a76d-4ea2a36b547b Songbird 2006-06-25T08:09:14Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#6ba06bc4-8b6e-4089-9800-8dfad252345f Hee, my partner is a 9... But I think we may have switched somewhere... ok, I wondered, but now I dont. Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:08:12 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#6ba06bc4-8b6e-4089-9800-8dfad252345f Songbird 2006-06-25T08:08:12Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#f7b424a8-9a39-4d91-928b-1edd909a58f8 Hey, I'm a 6... and I am having a rather counterphobic swing.... Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:07:05 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#f7b424a8-9a39-4d91-928b-1edd909a58f8 Songbird 2006-06-25T08:07:05Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d6a43daf-7faa-46f5-a717-23d9be60d65d I'm a counterphobic 6 who spent many years being phobic and paranoid. What I love is as I continue to grow and become more my better self, I exhibit more of the "good" 6 qualities and less of what I call the "shivering Chiahuahua". I was married to a 5 and now live with a 9. It is easy to know them on a deeper level because I share some of their qualities; however, this doesn't always make the day to day living with them any easier! Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:43:01 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d6a43daf-7faa-46f5-a717-23d9be60d65d kris 2006-06-24T18:43:01Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d16aa93e-bbd3-45ff-bbb9-ca40147cc05f Its interesting that you lovely lot should comment on counterphobic and phobic with ease -- its seems more contraversial for those that study Riso and Hudson. I too, believe that I am more counterphobic but not fully. I dont think its as black and white as Palmer and R+H seem to theorise. Im a rather counterphobic 6w7; if anyone wants to ask me questions. Do you study stackings here? I.e. sexual, social and self preservation? Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:11:30 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d16aa93e-bbd3-45ff-bbb9-ca40147cc05f Aisling 2006-06-24T14:11:30Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d0b64908-4924-492d-ba53-c05ab9983f05 Well, that is exacty my point: the current use of the enneagram is arbitrary. Predictive? Yes if your self observation is unflintching. And yes, don't rely on the enneagram coming from a sufi source. Many folks who follow the Work of Mr. Gurdjeiff claim that it's Egyptian (5000 years ago). I was in the room when Helen Palmer got it from Kathy Speeth and neither looked Egyptian. Show me a man or woman who starts at zero and you got a corpse on your hands. Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:35:41 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d0b64908-4924-492d-ba53-c05ab9983f05 Ken 2006-03-14T10:35:41Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#c51afd20-78c7-4acd-aec6-08b0944c4f4a A truth is true, no matter how tautalogical a statement that is. Whether it comes from the Sufi Masters, the New Age Philosophers, or even if I found it on the back of a cereal box (and I wouldn't be surprised to find that cereal at Whole Foods), if it's true, the medium is unimportant. One of my favorite quotes is: "Now you know. And knowing is half the battle." Sound true? Sound deep? Sound philosophical? It comes from one of the old GI Joe Saturday morning cartoons. And yet, in many cases, knowing *is* half the battle. At least. And, even as bad analogies go, your was pretty horrific. Newspaper horoscopes are meant predictively, and are arbitrary. Even Astrology, which can be a useful tool to people, is dependent on when and where you were born. The Enneagram is a descriptive tool, and while you can use it, somewhat, to predict how someone might respond in certain situations, it's not really a forecasting tool. And, what's more, it's dependent on outside forces. I'm not convinced that one is *born* a 9 (for instance) in the same way that one is *born* a Cancer. Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:24:50 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#c51afd20-78c7-4acd-aec6-08b0944c4f4a Using parking meters 2006-03-13T06:24:50Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#4c58fdd8-72bb-47df-b775-844e7fd6e1ca Well, that's true Ken, though in this case I wasn't looking at the source--I was assuming something based on zero knowledge, except context--I always heard about the Enneagram in new age type circles/publications. When I found out a little more, and realised it came from a Sufi source (ie older and more sophisticated, linked to serious spiritual practise) then I looked at it. I included this info about my way of proceeding because I suspect it is 6ish to be suspicious, and even hostile if you're counterphobic, based on little information. From what I understand, we ARE suspicious, which can be a good quality or a limiting one, depending how we wield it. Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:08:15 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#4c58fdd8-72bb-47df-b775-844e7fd6e1ca kalsang 2006-03-13T02:08:15Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#f517e39f-e177-48db-bc3d-9c39386b6461 I don't find looking at the source of information as being stupid or prejudiced at all. When you read your horoscope in the newspaper do you really go out and bet your life on that information? Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:02:47 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#f517e39f-e177-48db-bc3d-9c39386b6461 Ken 2006-03-12T21:02:47Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#ff1fd420-1442-482e-896d-d657fc533a90 You're totally right--I was outing myself as prejudiced and stupid!!! Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:57:18 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#ff1fd420-1442-482e-896d-d657fc533a90 kalsang 2006-03-12T05:57:18Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#cca5d537-0ca9-4ee1-a1d0-fe977477b817 Why does the origin make a difference as to the effectiveness of the information? Can't something be new and correct at the same time? Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:04:07 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#cca5d537-0ca9-4ee1-a1d0-fe977477b817 Using parking meters 2006-03-11T04:04:07Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#0599f5dd-aaec-4efc-b3e0-53cdc62413a2 Who wants to know? Why? What are you going to do with the information? Just kidding... I'm a 6 with 5 and 7 wings. I despised the Enneagram as New Age nonsense until I found out it was apparently Sufi in origin. Then I read about it and was truly impressed. Especially the way it's dynamic. I absolutely swing from 9 to 3, according to my levels of stress and ease. I hate when I'm in 3--I perfom so well, and it's really not me, just survival. I think we 6's can be great. We're helpful and empathetic and we know what it is to feel alone and scared so we make great, supportive friends. Of course when I'm counterphobic I'm like a terrier and I bite people completely un-necessarily and then have to deal with the consequences :-) And I have to know up-front what's going to happen in workshops or whatever, so I can relax, which is a pain in the ass for some people. I get along well with 9's and 5's. Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:37:15 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#0599f5dd-aaec-4efc-b3e0-53cdc62413a2 kalsang 2006-03-10T04:37:15Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#6bcd7dc1-8cac-406f-ae44-8a0e323f9eed Here's a possible exercise: What do you really think about Geo Bush? What do you see in his body language? Do you think that he has a warm and fuzzy side, or better yet, that he could ever express what he really feels without all the layers of protection he has erected, or have been imposed on him? Does he have any firends with whom he feels comfortable enough to let his hair down (so to speak?) Or he just too distrustful of others that he can't trust them to do anything but bolster his own view of himself? Some of these questions may be not well thought through, but I often use this kind of examination to get to the core of my own reactions. It really doesn't matter whether to not they are an exact representation of the type. What is great to see is my gut reaction. There can be only a little ducking the question and hiding out. Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:37:15 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#6bcd7dc1-8cac-406f-ae44-8a0e323f9eed Ken 2006-03-09T22:37:15Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#412dd7fe-222f-46f5-9c3b-4b92a3eac3fa lol I often want to be the brainy quiet type but alas//// counterphobic or phobic is like intoverted or extroverted....So if you have a 20 point scale then a person could be phobic 10--------------3--4--5-------10 or falling in the 3,4,5, range of counterphobic hmmmmm with phobic 10 being "I can't leave the house the world is scary" or 10 counterphobic being "the world is scary... that makes me angry must distroy everything scary" ..... As a countephobic 6 I can also tell you that counterphobic 6s spend some time being phobic this might be missed because we often hide out until the we feel (strong) again. For me personaly the phobic quality is related to introversion and counterphobic related to extroversion.... So 6w7 is going to do lots of 7 like things but we will need to find time to recharge our batteries so to speak... 7w6 is fully an extrovert even if its mildly extroverted at times .. The major difference for the 7 is that 7s are like solar powered people the more social contact the better either one on one or in groups social contact energizes them and 6s run on batteries...strongly counterphobic 6s may not seem like it but they will eventually go to ground to recharge. 'ahem' We will eventually go to ground to recharge. one last observation concerning intoverts, extroverts, phobic and counterphobic, I can be more or less extoverted depending on mood, situation, stimulation etc. sometimes this can be a big shift one way or the other, this creates some confusion when trying to type a 6 ... hehehe... heres a trick ... a 7 fears pain on an unconscous level but what it seems like to the 7 is that they are moving towards the positive.... at a party they seem to know when a situation is going to turn bad and they say... "Oh Look! There is John and Lindsy! then its a move towards the positive... A six will be painfully aware of the oncoming unplesentness and may not even notice their friends john and lindsy.... EEk no spell check... ok I am open to questions about myself or 6s in general from anyone, I promise honest answers if you don't scare me to much *laughs* Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:45:16 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#412dd7fe-222f-46f5-9c3b-4b92a3eac3fa james 2006-02-04T13:45:16Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d2545510-4817-49cd-b4ad-78bc9953097b Look at the descriptions of the unhealthy 6, and see how well that matches with your worst times. I never really felt I identified as a 9 until I realized that I'm the very model of a 9 gone to ground - and trust me, nobody goes to ground like a 9 does. We have "la-la-la, I can't hear you" filters like nobody's business. I've found that everyone wants to identify with the healthy parts of the category descriptions, but the unhealthy descriptions are were they tend to differentiate themselves. You just have to be honest with yourself. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:29:43 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d2545510-4817-49cd-b4ad-78bc9953097b Using parking meters 2006-01-25T03:29:43Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#01308ef8-0b0b-422a-82d2-10cf30c16289 I'm somewhat new to the enneagram, and still learning, but I've determined that I'm either a 6w7 or 7w6. I find that I'm attracted to people who seem 5-ish. . . the brainy quiet ones. they drive me crazy! Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:17:29 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#01308ef8-0b0b-422a-82d2-10cf30c16289 April 2006-01-22T21:17:29Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#62db8a3c-5003-46e6-9ec9-bdbd4921563c Six in the house, and as far as compatibility, I've noticed that sixes match up well with 1's, 9's, 4's, and sometimes 5's. It has a lot to do with 6's being compliant/thinking/reactionary and in the 3/6/9 triad (1's are compliant, 9 is a 6's point of integration, 4's are reactionary, and 5's of course are thinking types). It has a lot to do with the primary concern that occupies 6's - comfort. we want numbers that help lower our naturally high norepinephrine levels, or help raise our naturally low seratonin levels. i can post more detailed info if you like, just let me know... -Duardon Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:42:21 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#62db8a3c-5003-46e6-9ec9-bdbd4921563c Duardon 2005-08-03T22:42:21Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#0dc942eb-f58d-44b6-903b-4b8b664b8a67 Janet, you're welcome! A lot of the enneagram texts can be a bit misleading about the meaning of "phobic" vs. "counterphobic" Sixes. There's no absolute there, as far as I can tell-- everybody has elements of both sides in them. You probably have a predominant preference, but phobic/counterphobic behavior is often situational. For example, my friend Jen is definitely a phobic Six in 90% of her life, but she loves extreme sports and does crazy physical stuff she's scared to death of-- but in everything else she's pretty reserved. If you've been working on yourself for a while-- with the enneagram, or some other self-awareness discipline-- you may already be living most of your life at a pretty high level. The Six path to growth (integration) goes towards the healthy aspects of Nine-- inner peace, serenity, compassion, selfless love, connection to the web of life. A good place to get a sense of your level of health is from the Enneagram Institute's web site, where the type descriptions give a brief snapshot of each type, at different levels of awareness: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeSix.asp You might also read the "healthy" aspects of Nine to get an expanded sense for the traits of healthy Six. I'll take a stab ot what makes Six/Nine a nice match-- but keep in mind that it's perhaps slanted by the fact that many of my favorite people are Sixes! Also, it seems that female Six/male Nine works better than vice-versa, not sure why, though. And a final caveat would be that it doesn't work as well (for me, anyway) at lower levels of emotional health-- UN-healthy Sixes can be very anxious/paranoid, and I tend to find that exhausting and tend to withdraw (one of the problems with Nines) after a while. The good bits though, are that lthough we often get there by different paths, we tend to want the same things in life; and we often express that through lives I'd describe as "mainstream with a weird outsider edge." Most Sixes I know subscribe to more than a few non-traditional, outsider, "who cares" freethinking values. My Six friends like the fact that I am very stable, calm, non-threatening and accepting of them, as they are-- able to put their anxieties to rest without needing to "change" who they are, or "six" them. We also seem to connect on a very "deep" level, spiritually, intellectually, emotionally. And we seem to just genuinely want the best for each other. What Nine often does for Six is provide the acceptance needed for Six to just relax and live authentically. And then we more or less "naturally" just want to explore all aspects of what it means to live, together. I guess my Six friends' main "problem" with me is that they tend to be very active, or even "live wires," and whereas my peacefulness is what draws them, it also becomes a point of frustration because I am by nature not as much of a "doer" as they would like. But we usually strike compromise. Don't know if that made it any clearer-- it was more or less a flow-of-consciousness ramble. --Peter Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:14:57 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#0dc942eb-f58d-44b6-903b-4b8b664b8a67 Peter 2005-08-03T14:14:57Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d7fef19e-dde1-47b3-a2c5-f8f237b0454d (The first time I took one of the online tests, my results were as follows: 1:5 2:5 3:1 4:5 5:3 6:6 7:4 8:3 9:4 So that means I'm a 6, right?) Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:03:27 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#d7fef19e-dde1-47b3-a2c5-f8f237b0454d JZ 2005-08-02T23:03:27Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#eaab0bdd-fad8-47ea-9e0e-23b86dbea0fd Wow, Peter-- Thanks for the information- Just what I was looking for. I've read about the phobic and couterphobic types of 6's. Do you think it's possible for a 6 to demonstrate both qualities, depending on the situation or time in their life? I've found that at times I avoid some new (read: scary) situations because it threatens my already secure and cozy state of mind, but at other times, the first moment I sense that I am threatened by even the hint of a fearful feeling, I logically go through it in my mind, and then tackle it ~full-on~! -- because long ago I made a conscious decision to rid myself of as much feaful feelings as possible-- if it made sense-- simply because life feels better without fear. Also interesting is the fact that many 6's won't even take the test. Check out the Type 6 group here on tribe-- only 2 of us, and I don't even think that the man named Lobo is even a 6! Best-case-scenario for me would be that I am a well-developed 6, having already dealt with many typical-six type problems and am on top of things. That would be the best-- to have beaten the down-side of your type and have already begun the ongoing cultivation and maximization of the positive aspects. Thanks for your input! Oh, and you say the 6's and 9's tend to relate rather well together. If 6's make wonderful and loyal friends, as you stated, what does that make the 9? Anyone else have input? Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:49:32 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#eaab0bdd-fad8-47ea-9e0e-23b86dbea0fd JZ 2005-08-02T21:49:32Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#a1542fee-6de3-444b-ba3d-4ae4645b3645 Hi Janet! Sixes can be somewhat enigmatic. Most of the enneagram workshops I have been to start out with only a handful of Sixes in the room, but end with as much as 30-40% of attendees being Sixes. A lot of Sixes seem to type themselves as something other than Six, and many Sixes don't type themselves at ALL, choosing instead to feel affronted by the notion that people can be "categorized." My impression (I've been a student of the enneagram for about 15 years) is that Sixes are possibly the most frequently found type, in the greater population. As you probably know, Sixes are the core type in the "head" (or thinking) triad (5,6,7), which is alternately referred to (by some) as the "fear" triad. Sixes can be either "phobic" (best described as "compliant" with their fears) or "counterphobic" (constantly pushing against their fears to overcome them) but both strategies come from the same core motivation. Personally, I like Sixes very much-- I am a Nine, and we share a security/stress line, which means that we tend to relate rather well. Six-Nine is a pretty common (and often very solid and harmonious) relationship combination. Sixes make wonderful and loyal friends-- in many ways they are the backbone of society. Two of my best friends are Sixes. --Peter Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:56:38 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#a1542fee-6de3-444b-ba3d-4ae4645b3645 Peter 2005-08-02T12:56:38Z http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#337f0d19-2b98-414a-9358-473a832b468f I don't think I've read any reference to Type 6's. I've taken several versions of the test and keep coming out a 6. If there aren't any others here, are there at least those who have personally been in contact with a 6? Good or bad I'd like to hear about it... Any other type that is particularly compatable? Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:17:19 GMT http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/36c338c3-9d10-4470-abb4-9fbc1de5a727#337f0d19-2b98-414a-9358-473a832b468f JZ 2005-08-02T05:17:19Z