Tribe.net. Local Connections Amélie http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#8178fae0-f4dc-4c9e-be5e-37d510c411c6 2008-08-12T21:34:04Z 2008-08-12T21:34:04Z

Oh, and I'm INFP and SP instinct

Amélie 2008-08-12T21:34:04Z Amélie http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#a90791b5-9443-4d9d-a494-cb45b6cbe32f 2008-08-12T21:33:17Z 2008-08-12T21:33:17Z

4w5

Amélie 2008-08-12T21:33:17Z Deborah http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#935c9716-e92c-4b4d-81e3-9a1b42c37e27 2008-05-01T00:56:06Z 2008-05-01T00:56:06Z

9w8 or 8w9 i have no idea what it means.

Deborah 2008-05-01T00:56:06Z Yvonne http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#7cf3095d-69ce-48d0-b098-76d5413e3ae0 2008-01-03T00:05:11Z 2008-01-03T00:05:11Z

I am an INFP 4w5/SP and highly sensitive... this is fun :)

Yvonne 2008-01-03T00:05:11Z Hayden http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#b8862fba-02fb-423d-8720-ab67721863cc 2007-07-13T22:26:13Z 2007-07-13T22:26:13Z

Just took the test again, and I'm still a 9w1 SX. My dissertation chair is an enneagram expert and he gives me the best feedback/advice because he know how to talk to me and how I operate. It's great!

Hayden 2007-07-13T22:26:13Z Jacqueline http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#652f695b-5bde-46f7-8eb5-46832d43bb7c 2007-07-13T18:02:45Z 2007-07-13T18:02:45Z

I am quit sure that i am a Self-Preservation 9 w1. Also an INFJ in MBTI. Well... ... when i am very relaxed and not at work, I see myself act like an INFP.

Jacqueline 2007-07-13T18:02:45Z kris http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#08de9d69-2e9a-4b7c-90c7-304de2142ff4 2006-06-30T02:32:49Z 2006-06-30T02:32:49Z

I'm also an HSP - can have it's challenging days. Lately I've been thinking of it as my Super Powers.

kris 2006-06-30T02:32:49Z kris http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#8ca1828f-4072-4a73-aae5-e9c523dd0d0a 2006-06-30T02:26:13Z 2006-06-30T02:26:13Z

Oh, and I'm an INFP.

kris 2006-06-30T02:26:13Z kris http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#43181d96-2e7c-4ce6-9722-a8b2fef3249c 2006-06-30T02:25:54Z 2006-06-30T02:25:54Z

Would you like to come with me next time I need to sell my services (ahem, coaching, I mean)? Being a counterphobic 6 helps get me out, but I'm not so hot at small talk... could use some of that room working mojo.

kris 2006-06-30T02:25:54Z Pedro http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#1cfa14f9-22ab-423f-9219-653059c8d164 2006-06-29T16:56:02Z 2006-06-29T16:56:02Z

After reading through the book Understanding the Enneagram by Riso & Hudson I believe I am a 7. ahhh, that feels right! Playtime again? Okay!

Pedro 2006-06-29T16:56:02Z Ken http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#5e0da54a-b933-4ecd-9800-744b121f0e0c 2006-03-10T01:07:26Z 2006-03-10T01:07:26Z

Thank God someone mentioned Claudio's books. 'Character and Neurosis' is indeed a hard read. (Claudio never dumbs it down or has writing a best seller in mind.) But then I like 'Ennea-type Structures : Self-Analysis for the Seeker.' Though not the Source of this system, it is closer than most of the written stuff out there. Typing one's own personality is just a tough business. In 1972 I was typed as a 7 and "lived an OK life like a good 7 should" for many years until Claudio re-typed me a 9 about 12 years ago. I remember my conversation with a really good friend who is a great human, loving, caring, looking after the good of everyone, a classic even keeled 9! He also knows the enneagram quite well as a theory. I asked his type and he said that his wife, also an astute observer, says he is a redeemed 8. I expressed my astonishment, and S just said, "I'm no ass kisser." Bingo. I guess that it takes a rebellious 9 to see one. A tough business indeed.

Ken 2006-03-10T01:07:26Z Bo http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#bc24666d-00b4-469d-840d-b942c9e81bca 2006-03-02T02:00:04Z 2006-03-02T02:00:04Z

Any therapy to change myself out from being a 4? 4 is a disease.

Bo 2006-03-02T02:00:04Z Bo http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#a8a00b37-b58d-4c4d-8c6d-a7881722e60d 2006-03-01T14:33:10Z 2006-03-01T14:33:10Z

4w5 married to a 7.

Bo 2006-03-01T14:33:10Z April http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#c20e4366-c2f7-4a5e-9140-78db7450e459 2006-02-15T03:43:56Z 2006-02-15T03:43:56Z

I'm a 6 as well, with a 7 wing and maybe some other stuff. . . I'm not all that enneagram savvy just yet

April 2006-02-15T03:43:56Z Lobo http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#54775bb0-9ee4-4834-ae3e-a5e702f49c5a 2005-04-18T14:53:04Z 2005-04-18T14:53:04Z

as an 8 w strong 9 wing... people are surprised at how peaceful I am...

Lobo 2005-04-18T14:53:04Z Hugh G. Rection, the Pun Gent :D http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#a8ef77ac-d566-4382-b558-ea60162614dc 2005-04-16T22:38:35Z 2005-04-16T22:38:35Z

I'm a 9 w/a strong 8 wing. People are surprised when my mild-mannered exterior gives way to a raging beast who can kick ass when needed. A Nine with a spine, as I like to say.

Hugh G. Rection, the Pun Gent :D 2005-04-16T22:38:35Z Jose http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#896354b7-4336-4ec9-a492-de403650989a 2005-04-15T17:26:50Z 2005-04-15T17:26:50Z

I'm also a 4w5 and am not tortured by it. Sure, those thoughts are present sometimes but they don't run the show. "4w5" describes my ego structure, not my true nature. Ultimately, we are more than our enneatype.

Jose 2005-04-15T17:26:50Z $item.owner.firstName http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#658679cd-70af-4a69-bd88-21d7cdfab93f 2005-04-14T18:33:38Z 2005-04-14T18:33:38Z

All the tests I have taken show me being a 5 with a wing of 4.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-04-14T18:33:38Z lalunanueva http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#1e82e872-7386-4915-9e6e-2bf2826e6c03 2005-04-13T05:09:19Z 2005-04-13T05:09:19Z

the intensity of the emotions, the feeling different, to the point of isolation, searching for the ideal relationship...and focusing on the things that are still missing rather than all that is present..

lalunanueva 2005-04-13T05:09:19Z lalunanueva http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#401ca21e-07d2-4d13-952c-39ccfd3ac7c5 2005-04-13T05:05:48Z 2005-04-13T05:05:48Z

my best friend s a 7, and I am a 4/5

lalunanueva 2005-04-13T05:05:48Z Jose http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#c2af1886-c63e-42c8-93db-9b9f9518bec8 2005-04-09T16:50:46Z 2005-04-09T16:50:46Z

I'm a 4w5 sp. I can relate to what you're saying a bit. In the past, I have tended towards 7 romantic partners. It's actually a common pairing. The 4's are drawn to what they perceive to be the 7's joy in life; the 7's are drawn to what they perceive to be the 4's emotional depth. Each type struggling to find what it feels it doesn't have. Of course, since they're all responding to the outward persona of the type and not any true connection to these quailities, they are ultimately disappointed.

Jose 2005-04-09T16:50:46Z leanne http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#01dc1ccc-9fc0-4773-aae8-1b39c0e064b2 2005-04-09T16:26:12Z 2005-04-09T16:26:12Z

-new- 5w4 . one of the few in this tribe it seems. i wouldn't assume that a 5 wouldn't find the enneagram intellectually appealing----talking about it however is a process depending on who and what context. usually its a waste of time because either the person in question mentally aligns the enneagram with astrology/numerology or the intellectual superiority of the 5 in general, and concerning the enneagram in particular makes conversation/discussion(boards) incredibly frustrating. testing-----the only valid test is in the wisdom of the enneagram, either way testing tends to fail when most people attempt to do it for themselves as they dont have that presence telling them to stop lying to themselves about who they are. morning.

leanne 2005-04-09T16:26:12Z $item.owner.firstName http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#13e08ce6-f06b-4960-8c12-7525be5374d7 2005-04-04T23:07:24Z 2005-04-04T23:07:24Z

Experimental wrote: "...I am a 4w5 which I would not wish on anyone." Do tell. I am particularly interested in your reasons. Denise

$item.owner.firstName 2005-04-04T23:07:24Z Zed Zebra™ http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#851644e8-d4de-4fe3-bff8-31d9a48ca94d 2005-04-04T22:48:34Z 2005-04-04T22:48:34Z

I'm an INFJ (male so that puts me in the smallest MBTI group possible) and I am a 4w5 which I would not wish on anyone.

Zed Zebra™ 2005-04-04T22:48:34Z lalunanueva http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#308b9657-0d48-4522-bcba-9ff950ebbe02 2005-04-03T06:27:50Z 2005-04-03T06:27:50Z

me too, denise, infj. 4 w 5. also clairsentient. I like riso and hudsons work, although the term unhealthy and average push buttons for me.

lalunanueva 2005-04-03T06:27:50Z Rowan http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#f8b8da1e-4cbd-42f0-9cd3-82839a24cb68 2005-03-31T22:37:33Z 2005-03-31T22:37:33Z

I am a type 4 with a 5 wing and a line to 1. I am also an INFJ

Rowan 2005-03-31T22:37:33Z Wendy http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#f3203e3a-38f9-4b76-bfb1-3deaf407f242 2005-03-30T19:40:28Z 2005-03-30T19:40:28Z

Type 7, wing 8.

Wendy 2005-03-30T19:40:28Z Lobo http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#3f203259-1a7a-4457-beb9-0e44ac15eb6c 2004-12-15T03:46:09Z 2004-12-15T03:46:09Z

okay... 8w9 and INFP... interesting thread! Lobo

Lobo 2004-12-15T03:46:09Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#23c0d02a-b2f1-44c9-b7b4-036b3c8f4231 2004-10-11T21:45:14Z 2004-10-11T21:45:14Z

Welcome to all the new people! I've been somewhat distracted of late, but I'm still here :-) --Ryan (Social Two with Three wing; ENFJ)

Quiplash 2004-10-11T21:45:14Z $item.owner.firstName http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#22381854-dbe5-4301-a7f0-b648ce0dad18 2004-10-07T18:09:21Z 2004-10-07T18:09:21Z

wow, i've always thought naranjo's book was the definitive way to type oneself. a hard read, in that you have to look with brutal honesty at what you look like when dis-integrating, but also the clearest elucidation of the patterns that i've come across so far. for instance, i know i'ma four according to naranjo's descriptions, but the tests tend to put me at 7 cuz i have a lot of 7 going. but the basic imprint is 4, which claudio made clear. could you name that book? i don't have it myself, but highly recommend it.

$item.owner.firstName 2004-10-07T18:09:21Z Monika http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#128af640-17fb-4441-8ad6-0e0e4473270d 2004-10-07T17:29:47Z 2004-10-07T17:29:47Z

Hello, I'm a 5 with 4ish qualities. I learned about the enneagram years ago through my god parents who I lived with for about 6 years during & just after college. They used to teach enneagram classes & learned it from Claudio.

Monika 2004-10-07T17:29:47Z Nik http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#057f9a29-88f4-4a86-b7d1-91424b519811 2004-05-18T18:36:16Z 2004-05-18T18:36:16Z

9w1, SP (then SX then SO) Earth Monkey, hour of the Sheep Aries w/Leo rising, moon in Virgo Vata-Pitta INTJ, more or less Indigo/Crystal by the multiple-choice test, Yellow by Pamala Oslie's word :-) Highly Sensitive Person I've never heard of the Blake clans; can someone post a reference please?

Nik 2004-05-18T18:36:16Z Lisa http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#6b5bf244-fe29-4772-92d5-19486bdee8ae 2003-10-21T01:16:10Z

What are you? I *think* I'm a 2 w/ 1 wing, married to a 6. Don't know his wing - I don't have my books anymore and it's been years since I've studied...

Lisa 2003-10-21T01:16:10Z Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#98100de1-a7f3-4a54-ac89-87d3100fce47 2003-10-21T11:15:21Z

I am a typical geek - 5.

Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) 2003-10-21T11:15:21Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#ff63cadb-e057-457e-a58c-aabde812bdf7 2003-10-22T00:18:43Z

I'm a 2...more specifically, a Social 2 with a 3 Wing. In other words, in three rolls of the dice, it came up "extrovert" all three times: Social, Two, Three :-) I can work a room like nobody's business...

Quiplash 2003-10-22T00:18:43Z Lisa http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#f0ab7cb2-085c-4ed7-bf3b-815eae544191 2003-10-22T23:39:00Z

I've never met a 5 who would talk about personality types...yay! What wing do you have? Or do you think everyone one has a little of both?

Lisa 2003-10-22T23:39:00Z Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#dc5840ca-05ec-473c-914d-aec682acf0e2 2003-10-23T08:56:51Z

There is a barriere because Enneagram does not have an intelectual appealing - but it is an all encompassing system and that is very attractive for 5s. The Palmer book talks about that.

Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) 2003-10-23T08:56:51Z Jaya http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#665db3ac-5004-419c-8ed1-08ae5ed2fa23 2003-10-26T13:27:08Z

Hello...I am new to this tribe but have been studying the enneagram for about 3 years now and attended a lecture by Riso and Hudson....after that I learned to work with the healthy aspect of my traits....being a pure,unadulterated 4 that has been difficult !

Jaya 2003-10-26T13:27:08Z LyingBare http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#50a0b656-58a2-416f-ab3b-d5300da0fd20 2003-11-05T19:57:23Z

Hello.. I'm new to this tribe... I've been studying the enneagram for 4 years now... and always looking to learn more about how we function in and outside of our types... I'm a 4... but sometimes I think I may be a 2... Do any of you have a preference to either Palmer or Risso-Hudson books? or any one else for that matter.... Have a good one.... :)

LyingBare 2003-11-05T19:57:23Z Using parking meters http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#1da9977c-59d6-4661-838d-2d0274227e73 2003-11-06T00:19:14Z

Based on the readings and a few tests, I appear to be a 9 with a 1 wing, one-on-one type. I need to check some more sites and some more resources and figure out what to do with this information...

Using parking meters 2003-11-06T00:19:14Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#dc43ecac-49d2-420a-a800-fb7bbbf02c79 2003-11-06T14:41:48Z

Fours often get such a bad rap in some authors' books...but I have found that Riso and Hudson have worked hard to give an even-handed exposition of all the traits and characteristiscs (good and bad) of each type. Course it helps when one of the authors (Hudson I think) is also a 4 :-) --Ryan (2w3, ENFJ)

Quiplash 2003-11-06T14:41:48Z Lobster http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#f2e49eb1-96ea-4130-87e6-a8dce074e3e7 2003-11-07T02:12:31Z

I find Riso and Hudson more even-handed about the strengths and weaknesses of each type. Palmer seems to pathologize everything, which I don't find as helpful, at least not for someone starting out.

Lobster 2003-11-07T02:12:31Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#8e187f99-7b46-4c5e-91a6-7eb291a23cf6 2003-11-08T20:56:48Z

I would agree. I personally am not a big fan of Palmer's writings. The Riso and Hudson book "Wisdon of the Enneagram" gave me loads of insights about myself, and I found working through it very enlightening.

Quiplash 2003-11-08T20:56:48Z LyingBare http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#fcdc064b-4347-4c8b-86a5-01b4034a620f 2003-11-08T22:51:11Z

Palmer's books are or seem to be more scientific and less practical application.... Risso-Hudson is more "user friendly" :) and Yes that book Wisdom of is a great book.... I also have a little fun book I give to people as an introduction called the enneagram made easy by Baron and Wagele... its nothing more than a quick read to spark an interest but its a fun little read.... Hope youre all having a great day.....

LyingBare 2003-11-08T22:51:11Z Mike http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#18375f31-f13a-4bc7-b385-09e1171ea5a8 2003-11-18T03:40:03Z

Don is a 4/3, Rusty a 5/4. Don is probably an SX, Rusty an SO. I'm a 4/5, or Four with a 5-wing, weighted about 65/35. I'm also a Blake clan "Energy is Eternal Delight" Four, one of the less common clans. And I'm a black-Four rather than a purple-Four. Don's great gift was to present the upside of each type as well as the downside. A friend of mine (www.heartmind.org) is a Riso certified teacher, and we used to give classes in Menlo Park, California years ago. Male 2w3s are quite rare; I've only met three or four in my life (that I can remember, anyway). About as rare as 8/9 women. But consider Janet Reno and Tommy Tune...there you are. Mike

Mike 2003-11-18T03:40:03Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#9f6913a7-1ee2-4f86-ad2c-31b2d2787d7d 2003-11-18T14:49:54Z

Tommy Tune was a 2w3? --Ryan.

Quiplash 2003-11-18T14:49:54Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#3f03ef7a-b785-46ee-bc7c-b3427cc69896 2003-11-18T14:52:56Z

"I'm also a Blake clan "Energy is Eternal Delight" Four, one of the less common clans. And I'm a black-Four rather than a purple-Four." Whoa, you lost me completely. a black Four? a purple Four??? --Ryan.

Quiplash 2003-11-18T14:52:56Z Lobster http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#184a1dba-bea2-44fe-b927-5ab70abbe119 2003-11-23T02:46:03Z

>Based on the readings and a few tests, I appear to be a 9 with a 1 wing, one-on-one type. Interesting. I'm definitely definitely a 9 (with other notable components also, but definitely 9 at the core), but I've never been able to nail down the wing satisfactorily. Say more about the one-on-one thing.

Lobster 2003-11-23T02:46:03Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#346babfa-6a75-4b03-9ae9-42f5c37e24c6 2003-11-24T02:02:07Z

Riso/Hudson and other authors talk about the instinctual variant and how it affects your type. The three insitnctual variants are: Social: focus is on relating to groups of people, or society as a whole Sexual (or one-to-one): focus is on a one-to-one realtionship, or significant other Self-Preservation: focus is on self and one's own needs There is something called a stacking where one instinctual variant is dominant, one is in the middle, and one is at the bottom. The dominant instinctual variant is the "arena" where many of your Type's issues get played out; for example, I am a Social Two, but under stress I become ANTI-social and withdraw. Hope this helps, --Ryan.

Quiplash 2003-11-24T02:02:07Z Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#1e5d9e2d-4498-495b-8c8a-54a5732fc306 2003-11-24T08:29:02Z

I did not read the Riso/Hudson book - but I found the dynamics presented in Hurley/Dobson very convincing. It says all 2s in stress become 8s and in safe situation 4s. I observed my own behaviour and it fits very well. 5s in stress become 7s and in comfort 8s. Whats more, the dynamics shows the path of self developement as well - the good direction is towards the safe point.

Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) 2003-11-24T08:29:02Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#807cd6ae-9914-4192-9108-af0aacb9929c 2003-11-24T23:18:47Z

Yes, Baron and Wagele's books are fun introductions. My favourite is "Are You My Type, Am I Yours?" (or is it "Am I Your Type, Are You Mine?" damn difficult tilte to remember correctly :-) anyways, I agree, they're the perfect introductions for people new to the Enneagram.

Quiplash 2003-11-24T23:18:47Z orlando! http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#96775508-3313-43cc-b4cc-851fc0cc8828 2003-12-03T07:51:46Z

7 --- double gemini - vata - dragon HA! The thing I like most about the enneagram is it is dynamic and not static-- knowing that people evolve and regress depending on how they are responding and responsable given the pressures around them...

orlando! 2003-12-03T07:51:46Z orlando! http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#358b9407-7dba-45eb-847b-460e92a010f0 2003-12-03T07:53:13Z

oh and ENFP...now that we've got that done I bet you're running in FEAR!!!!

orlando! 2003-12-03T07:53:13Z John http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#3e66c172-0baf-46d5-b754-8ec2d226076e 2003-12-03T08:03:10Z

I´m a seven as well, and ENxP, strange :-)

John 2003-12-03T08:03:10Z Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#95fa6ee0-9dfd-4ed0-96bc-4d5b1170a98b 2003-12-03T08:15:14Z

That was evident!

Zbigniew Lukasiak (zby) 2003-12-03T08:15:14Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#dbc60f7b-d952-4d90-a1f6-8292d0d76452 2003-12-03T10:10:07Z

Nahhh Orlando... I'm an ENFJ :-)

Quiplash 2003-12-03T10:10:07Z Ellen http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#26248f2c-a810-42c6-b420-1b2eb66a3f6c 2004-01-14T16:02:40Z

I am an eight and an ENFJ.....luckily, I work in education or my tyrant qualities would ravage society. Worse yet, I am a leo.

Ellen 2004-01-14T16:02:40Z Peter http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#fe31ff9f-93a4-4cbe-8869-72ee86e67a61 2004-01-22T00:07:55Z

I'm a 9w1-- which I settled on after about a year of also considering 2, 5 and 6 as possibles. I used to think I was a self-pres Nine, but the more I look at it, the more I think I'm a sexual Nine. I'm an INFJ, according to the MBTI.

Peter 2004-01-22T00:07:55Z Rhianna http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#c450fe65-7a3f-49c3-a470-e00d4966221d 2004-01-22T01:55:57Z

5w4 Also, my MBTI is INTP.

Rhianna 2004-01-22T01:55:57Z ADubya H http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#24c1d7ad-38b7-4358-94b6-0c804d1c1d8c 2004-01-22T02:37:33Z

I'm a 7. Myers Briggs used to be an INTJ but that was many many years ago and I've a feeling I've shifted a bit.

ADubya H 2004-01-22T02:37:33Z forte http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#3d66faa3-bdc2-4f4e-89cd-13e37b08c73b 2004-01-26T22:01:21Z

I'm a 5w6, INTP on the MBTI.

forte 2004-01-26T22:01:21Z AlexMama http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#54a6b9df-384e-4edf-9302-3a062424a2bf 2004-01-30T17:52:42Z

I am a 2w1 (though I'm still not convinced completely) and an INFP (though most people laugh when I say 'I'...but they just don't know me that well)

AlexMama 2004-01-30T17:52:42Z Camille http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#b33700d1-dd35-4d0a-baec-f4275a8e776c 2004-02-23T21:57:36Z

I'm a 6--the first here, it seems.

Camille 2004-02-23T21:57:36Z Camille http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#2a30d262-91a4-4a16-80aa-7ca2db095c5f 2004-02-23T22:04:13Z

This is the site with a free test: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/type6.php And this site has information regarding compatibility: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/

Camille 2004-02-23T22:04:13Z Quiplash http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#52ac72ad-01be-4bea-8633-961fd13379d1 2004-02-24T01:39:04Z

Yes, the discussion forums on the Enneagram Institute that Irving (?!) mentioned are quite good. www.enneagraminstitute.com/ --Ryan.

Quiplash 2004-02-24T01:39:04Z Ellen http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#cf8f631b-83af-4826-b959-680e8e4f5240 2004-02-24T16:33:22Z

After going to this site, I realized that I mistyped myself. I am actually a 3w4.

Ellen 2004-02-24T16:33:22Z Monika http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#7418a927-51ec-4939-9ffb-1b3adb79e820 2004-02-24T21:10:20Z

I'm a classic 3 with a HEAVY handed 4 wing...and most of the people I am around are 4's, 5's and 8's..got to LOVE those bosses :)

Monika 2004-02-24T21:10:20Z James http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#15b62dea-e519-4c9e-bfd9-e750d5af9bc9 2004-02-26T00:56:46Z

I thought I was a 4w? but after going to the above mentioned site I was typed a 7w?. Although instinct (which I heavily believe is the true way to type) tells me I'm a four, I have always idealized 7's and looked for relationships with them. I orginally typed myself a 4 before beginning medications for psycho-therapy. Could what I consider to be effective therapy have changed my type? And How does one learn their wing?

James 2004-02-26T00:56:46Z $item.owner.firstName http://enneagram.tribe.net/thread/2706756d-4c89-411c-8089-b88c5ab3eb0d#69c17e7f-2b36-442c-ae78-36ea18911b56 2004-03-17T17:31:38Z

I joined Tribe two weeks ago, but only today am I getting up the nerve to post. I'm very, very shy. I'm also a Sexual 4w5, Myers-Briggs INFJ, and Oldham Sensitive. (And for those of you who have read Elaine Aron's book, I'm also a Highly Sensitive Person.) Here's a website that I have found useful in showing the correspondences among various personality typologies: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Resort/5446/correspondence.html For more information on the subtypes, check out http://www.9types.com/type4board/messages/10045.html. I particularly like the description of the Sexual Four found there: "SX 4s are the most emotional and romantic Fours who exemplify the Four's passionate approach to life. They live completely by the heart, following every feeling, which can sometimes get them in trouble if they are not careful. Intense fantasies of sunset kisses, and making love in a forest, swirl around in this variant's head, as they are the most erotic of Fours. Their emotions are like roller coasters - from the dizzying highs of love, to the sour lows of melancholy. One advantage of being so in tune with their feelings, is that they are also the potentially most creative. The stereotypical artist with turbulent emotions and original art is a SX 4. Issues involving their identity are not as prevalent as they are in SP and SCs, but instead take a back seat to their dominant emotional world of love, hatred, happiness and melancholy." Denise

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