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What are you? I *think* I'm a 2 w/ 1 wing, married to a 6. Don't know his wing - I don't have my books anymore and it's been years since I've studied...
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, October 22, 2003 - 4:39 PMI've never met a 5 who would talk about personality types...yay! What wing do you have? Or do you think everyone one has a little of both? -
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, October 23, 2003 - 1:56 AMThere is a barriere because Enneagram does not have an intelectual appealing - but it is an all encompassing system and that is very attractive for 5s. The Palmer book talks about that.
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, October 21, 2003 - 5:18 PMI'm a 2...more specifically, a Social 2 with a 3 Wing. In other words, in three rolls of the dice, it came up "extrovert" all three times: Social, Two, Three :-) I can work a room like nobody's business... -
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Re: Practice, build,expand
Sun, October 26, 2003 - 5:27 AMHello...I am new to this tribe but have been studying the enneagram for about 3 years now and attended a lecture by Riso and Hudson....after that I learned to work with the healthy aspect of my traits....being a pure,unadulterated 4 that has been difficult ! -
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Re: Practice, build,expand
Thu, November 6, 2003 - 6:41 AMFours often get such a bad rap in some authors' books...but I have found that Riso and Hudson have worked hard to give an even-handed exposition of all the traits and characteristiscs (good and bad) of each type.
Course it helps when one of the authors (Hudson I think) is also a 4 :-)
--Ryan (2w3, ENFJ)
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Re: Practice, build,expand
Mon, November 17, 2003 - 7:40 PMDon is a 4/3, Rusty a 5/4. Don is probably an SX, Rusty an SO.
I'm a 4/5, or Four with a 5-wing, weighted about 65/35. I'm also a Blake clan "Energy is Eternal Delight" Four, one of the less common clans. And I'm a black-Four rather than a purple-Four.
Don's great gift was to present the upside of each type as well as the downside. A friend of mine (www.heartmind.org) is a Riso certified teacher, and we used to give classes in Menlo Park, California years ago.
Male 2w3s are quite rare; I've only met three or four in my life (that I can remember, anyway). About as rare as 8/9 women. But consider Janet Reno and Tommy Tune...there you are.
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Re: Practice, build,expand
Tue, November 18, 2003 - 6:49 AMTommy Tune was a 2w3?
--Ryan.
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Re: Practice, build,expand
Tue, November 18, 2003 - 6:52 AM"I'm also a Blake clan "Energy is Eternal Delight" Four, one of the less common clans. And I'm a black-Four rather than a purple-Four."
Whoa, you lost me completely. a black Four? a purple Four???
--Ryan.
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, June 29, 2006 - 7:25 PMWould you like to come with me next time I need to sell my services (ahem, coaching, I mean)? Being a counterphobic 6 helps get me out, but I'm not so hot at small talk... could use some of that room working mojo.
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, November 5, 2003 - 11:57 AMHello.. I'm new to this tribe... I've been studying the enneagram for 4 years now... and always looking to learn more about how we function in and outside of our types... I'm a 4... but sometimes I think I may be a 2... Do any of you have a preference to either Palmer or Risso-Hudson books? or any one else for that matter.... Have a good one.... :) -
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, November 6, 2003 - 6:12 PMI find Riso and Hudson more even-handed about the strengths and weaknesses of each type. Palmer seems to pathologize everything, which I don't find as helpful, at least not for someone starting out. -
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Sat, November 8, 2003 - 12:56 PMI would agree. I personally am not a big fan of Palmer's writings. The Riso and Hudson book "Wisdon of the Enneagram" gave me loads of insights about myself, and I found working through it very enlightening. -
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Sat, November 8, 2003 - 2:51 PMPalmer's books are or seem to be more scientific and less practical application.... Risso-Hudson is more "user friendly" :) and Yes that book Wisdom of is a great book.... I also have a little fun book I give to people as an introduction called the enneagram made easy by Baron and Wagele... its nothing more than a quick read to spark an interest but its a fun little read.... Hope youre all having a great day..... -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, November 24, 2003 - 3:18 PMYes, Baron and Wagele's books are fun introductions. My favourite is "Are You My Type, Am I Yours?" (or is it "Am I Your Type, Are You Mine?" damn difficult tilte to remember correctly :-) anyways, I agree, they're the perfect introductions for people new to the Enneagram.
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, November 5, 2003 - 4:19 PMBased on the readings and a few tests, I appear to be a 9 with a 1 wing, one-on-one type.
I need to check some more sites and some more resources and figure out what to do with this information... -
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Re: Type yourself
Sat, November 22, 2003 - 6:46 PM>Based on the readings and a few tests, I appear to be a 9 with a 1 wing, one-on-one type.
Interesting. I'm definitely definitely a 9 (with other notable components also, but definitely 9 at the core), but I've never been able to nail down the wing satisfactorily. Say more about the one-on-one thing. -
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Re: Type yourself
Sun, November 23, 2003 - 6:02 PMRiso/Hudson and other authors talk about the instinctual variant and how it affects your type. The three insitnctual variants are:
Social: focus is on relating to groups of people, or society as a whole
Sexual (or one-to-one): focus is on a one-to-one realtionship, or significant other
Self-Preservation: focus is on self and one's own needs
There is something called a stacking where one instinctual variant is dominant, one is in the middle, and one is at the bottom. The dominant instinctual variant is the "arena" where many of your Type's issues get played out; for example, I am a Social Two, but under stress I become ANTI-social and withdraw.
Hope this helps,
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, November 24, 2003 - 12:29 AMI did not read the Riso/Hudson book - but I found the dynamics presented in Hurley/Dobson very convincing. It says all 2s in stress become 8s and in safe situation 4s.
I observed my own behaviour and it fits very well. 5s in stress become 7s and in comfort 8s.
Whats more, the dynamics shows the path of self developement as well - the good direction is towards the safe point. -
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, December 2, 2003 - 11:51 PM7 --- double gemini - vata - dragon HA!
The thing I like most about the enneagram is it is dynamic and not static-- knowing that people evolve and regress depending on how they are responding and responsable given the pressures around them... -
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Tue, December 2, 2003 - 11:53 PMoh and ENFP...now that we've got that done I bet you're running in FEAR!!!! -
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, December 3, 2003 - 12:03 AMI´m a seven as well, and ENxP,
strange :-)
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, December 3, 2003 - 2:10 AMNahhh Orlando... I'm an ENFJ :-) -
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, January 14, 2004 - 8:02 AMI am an eight and an ENFJ.....luckily, I work in education or my tyrant qualities would ravage society. Worse yet, I am a leo.
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, January 21, 2004 - 4:07 PMI'm a 9w1-- which I settled on after about a year of also considering 2, 5 and 6 as possibles. I used to think I was a self-pres Nine, but the more I look at it, the more I think I'm a sexual Nine.
I'm an INFJ, according to the MBTI. -
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Fri, July 13, 2007 - 11:02 AMI am quit sure that i am a Self-Preservation 9 w1. Also an INFJ in MBTI. Well... ... when i am very relaxed and not at work, I see myself act like an INFP.
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, January 21, 2004 - 5:55 PM5w4
Also, my MBTI is INTP. -
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, January 21, 2004 - 6:37 PMI'm a 7. Myers Briggs used to be an INTJ but that was many many years ago and I've a feeling I've shifted a bit.
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Re: Type yourself
Fri, January 30, 2004 - 9:52 AMI am a 2w1 (though I'm still not convinced completely) and an INFP (though most people laugh when I say 'I'...but they just don't know me that well) -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 1:57 PMI'm a 6--the first here, it seems. -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 2:04 PMThis is the site with a free test:
www.eclecticenergies.com/ennea...e6.php
And this site has information regarding compatibility:
www.enneagraminstitute.com/ -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 5:39 PMYes, the discussion forums on the Enneagram Institute that Irving (?!) mentioned are quite good.
www.enneagraminstitute.com/
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, February 24, 2004 - 8:33 AMAfter going to this site, I realized that I mistyped myself. I am actually a 3w4.
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, February 25, 2004 - 4:56 PMI thought I was a 4w? but after going to the above mentioned site I was typed a 7w?. Although instinct (which I heavily believe is the true way to type) tells me I'm a four, I have always idealized 7's and looked for relationships with them. I orginally typed myself a 4 before beginning medications for psycho-therapy. Could what I consider to be effective therapy have changed my type? And How does one learn their wing? -
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Re: Type yourself
Sat, April 9, 2005 - 9:50 AMI'm a 4w5 sp.
I can relate to what you're saying a bit. In the past, I have tended towards 7 romantic partners. It's actually a common pairing. The 4's are drawn to what they perceive to be the 7's joy in life; the 7's are drawn to what they perceive to be the 4's emotional depth. Each type struggling to find what it feels it doesn't have. Of course, since they're all responding to the outward persona of the type and not any true connection to these quailities, they are ultimately disappointed. -
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, April 12, 2005 - 10:05 PMmy best friend s a 7, and I am a 4/5
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, February 14, 2006 - 7:43 PMI'm a 6 as well, with a 7 wing and maybe some other stuff. . . I'm not all that enneagram savvy just yet
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, February 24, 2004 - 1:10 PMI'm a classic 3 with a HEAVY handed 4 wing...and most of the people I am around are 4's, 5's and 8's..got to LOVE those bosses :)
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, March 17, 2004 - 9:31 AMI joined Tribe two weeks ago, but only today am I getting up the nerve to post. I'm very, very shy.
I'm also a Sexual 4w5, Myers-Briggs INFJ, and Oldham Sensitive. (And for those of you who have read Elaine Aron's book, I'm also a Highly Sensitive Person.) Here's a website that I have found useful in showing the correspondences among various personality typologies: www.geocities.com/HotSpring...dence.html
For more information on the subtypes, check out www.9types.com/type4board...10045.html. I particularly like the description of the Sexual Four found there:
"SX 4s are the most emotional and romantic Fours who exemplify the Four's passionate approach to life. They live
completely by the heart, following every feeling, which can sometimes get them in trouble if they are not careful.
Intense fantasies of sunset kisses, and making love in a forest, swirl around in this variant's head, as they are the
most erotic of Fours. Their emotions are like roller coasters - from the dizzying highs of love, to the sour lows of
melancholy. One advantage of being so in tune with their feelings, is that they are also the potentially most
creative. The stereotypical artist with turbulent emotions and original art is a SX 4. Issues involving their identity
are not as prevalent as they are in SP and SCs, but instead take a back seat to their dominant emotional world of
love, hatred, happiness and melancholy."
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Re: Type yourself
Sat, April 2, 2005 - 10:27 PMme too, denise, infj. 4 w 5. also clairsentient. I like riso and hudsons work, although the term unhealthy and average push buttons for me.
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, June 29, 2006 - 7:32 PMI'm also an HSP - can have it's challenging days. Lately I've been thinking of it as my Super Powers.
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Tue, May 18, 2004 - 11:36 AM9w1, SP (then SX then SO)
Earth Monkey, hour of the Sheep
Aries w/Leo rising, moon in Virgo
Vata-Pitta
INTJ, more or less
Indigo/Crystal by the multiple-choice test, Yellow by Pamala Oslie's word :-)
Highly Sensitive Person
I've never heard of the Blake clans; can someone post a reference please?
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, October 7, 2004 - 10:29 AMHello, I'm a 5 with 4ish qualities. I learned about the enneagram years ago through my god parents who I lived with for about 6 years during & just after college. They used to teach enneagram classes & learned it from Claudio. -
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, October 7, 2004 - 11:09 AMwow, i've always thought naranjo's book was the definitive way to type oneself. a hard read, in that you have to look with brutal honesty at what you look like when dis-integrating, but also the clearest elucidation of the patterns that i've come across so far.
for instance, i know i'ma four according to naranjo's descriptions, but the tests tend to put me at 7 cuz i have a lot of 7 going. but the basic imprint is 4, which claudio made clear.
could you name that book? i don't have it myself, but highly recommend it. -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, October 11, 2004 - 2:45 PMWelcome to all the new people!
I've been somewhat distracted of late, but I'm still here :-)
--Ryan (Social Two with Three wing; ENFJ)
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, December 14, 2004 - 7:46 PMokay... 8w9 and INFP...
interesting thread!
Lobo
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, March 31, 2005 - 2:37 PMI am a type 4 with a 5 wing and a line to 1. I am also an INFJ
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, April 4, 2005 - 3:48 PMI'm an INFJ (male so that puts me in the smallest MBTI group possible) and I am a 4w5 which I would not wish on anyone. -
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Re: Type yourself
Mon, April 4, 2005 - 4:07 PMExperimental wrote: "...I am a 4w5 which I would not wish on anyone." Do tell. I am particularly interested in your reasons.
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, April 12, 2005 - 10:09 PMthe intensity of the emotions, the feeling different, to the point of isolation, searching for the ideal relationship...and focusing on the things that are still missing rather than all that is present.. -
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Re: Type yourself
Fri, April 15, 2005 - 10:26 AMI'm also a 4w5 and am not tortured by it. Sure, those thoughts are present sometimes but they don't run the show. "4w5" describes my ego structure, not my true nature. Ultimately, we are more than our enneatype.
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no 5 tribes?
Sat, April 9, 2005 - 9:26 AM-new-
5w4 . one of the few in this tribe it seems.
i wouldn't assume that a 5 wouldn't find the enneagram intellectually appealing----talking about it however is a process depending on who and what context. usually its a waste of time because either the person in question mentally aligns the enneagram with astrology/numerology or the intellectual superiority of the 5 in general, and concerning the enneagram in particular makes conversation/discussion(boards) incredibly frustrating.
testing-----the only valid test is in the wisdom of the enneagram, either way testing tends to fail when most people attempt to do it for themselves as they dont have that presence telling them to stop lying to themselves about who they are.
morning.
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, April 14, 2005 - 11:33 AMAll the tests I have taken show me being a 5 with a wing of 4. -
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Re: Type yourself
Sat, April 16, 2005 - 3:38 PMI'm a 9 w/a strong 8 wing. People are surprised when my mild-mannered exterior gives way to a raging beast who can kick ass when needed. A Nine with a spine, as I like to say. -
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Mon, April 18, 2005 - 7:53 AMas an 8 w strong 9 wing... people are surprised at how peaceful I am...
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, March 1, 2006 - 6:00 PMAny therapy to change myself out from being a 4?
4 is a disease.
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Thu, March 9, 2006 - 5:07 PMThank God someone mentioned Claudio's books. 'Character and Neurosis' is indeed a hard read. (Claudio never dumbs it down or has writing a best seller in mind.) But then I like 'Ennea-type Structures : Self-Analysis for the Seeker.' Though not the Source of this system, it is closer than most of the written stuff out there.
Typing one's own personality is just a tough business. In 1972 I was typed as a 7 and "lived an OK life like a good 7 should" for many years until Claudio re-typed me a 9 about 12 years ago.
I remember my conversation with a really good friend who is a great human, loving, caring, looking after the good of everyone, a classic even keeled 9! He also knows the enneagram quite well as a theory. I asked his type and he said that his wife, also an astute observer, says he is a redeemed 8. I expressed my astonishment, and S just said, "I'm no ass kisser." Bingo. I guess that it takes a rebellious 9 to see one.
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Re: Type yourself
Thu, June 29, 2006 - 9:56 AMAfter reading through the book Understanding the Enneagram by Riso & Hudson I believe I am a 7.
ahhh, that feels right! Playtime again? Okay!
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Re: Type yourself
Fri, July 13, 2007 - 3:26 PMJust took the test again, and I'm still a 9w1 SX.
My dissertation chair is an enneagram expert and he gives me the best feedback/advice because he know how to talk to me and how I operate. It's great!
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, January 2, 2008 - 4:05 PMI am an INFP 4w5/SP and highly sensitive... this is fun :)
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Re: Type yourself
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 5:56 PM9w8 or 8w9
i have no idea what it means.
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Re: Type yourself
Tue, August 12, 2008 - 2:34 PMOh, and I'm INFP and SP instinct
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